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zwei2stein · Apr 14, 2010, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by Meridon

You're making it sound like micro-transactions are the only way to fund updates and support for this game.

It's not. The fact that this game has no subscriptions doesn't mean it can't generate revenue without players paying for new assets.

Something as simple as an external advertisement added to the login and character selection screen can probably generate the funds to support the servers.

It not about funding servers and updates.

It is, like every single other business, about maximizing profit. Spending money on running serves and updates is investment on means of production, not goal. It is important that players understand it.

Fo this end, sane company will find a way to get as much profit from playerbase as possible. I guarantee you, something that would "just" support servers is ulikely to happen, because even with pure intentions of making great game for players, company needs money to grow and hire bigger team.

thelessa · Apr 14, 2010, 02:07 PM // 14:07

I would pay for extra hero slots!

Pandora's box · Apr 14, 2010, 05:26 PM // 17:26

It will take a long time until GW2 so extra content would be welcome! Thinking of unlocking small parts of Tyria previously unmapped, with some quests and special gear. Given all effort put into balancing, this would be peanuts and I would gladly pay for every update

Yawgmoth · Apr 14, 2010, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Mireles

Micro-transactions are NCSoft's solution to the expenses associated with guild wars 2... if you Google their annual reports.... they have been using much more resources to make guild wars 2 than guild wars 1 is bringing in.... which lack of resources is one of the reasons its taking so long. I don't see anything wrong with paying a developer for something in their game so they can use the resources to improve it... If you like guild wars and have not spent anything on it but the cost of the game for 5 years.... I am happy to show a little support consider it a donation with a thank you prize. The more money a game makes the more attention it gets... plain and simple.

LoL. If you really believe GW1's microtransactions are helping fund GW2 development then... they just win your money

Seriously, it's obvious that the costs to develop a whole new game as massive as GW2 are greatly larger than the revenue they're able to generate right now, but you should keep in mind it's an entirely new project, a new investment that will get paid for from it's own sales.

It's nothing more than draining the dying cow.
Microtransactions mean we're not getting our money's worth. We're not getting quality content that would be worth real money.

If you like to pay the price of 1/4th of a new full campagin (or 100% of a full campagin's price today) for what's worth like 1-2% of a full campagin's content, do so. Or if you feel your money will help them deliver a better GW2 faster, go on and donate by pruchasing 200 makeover credits or other stupidity. They should reward you with a stupid title like "I donate ($500)"

Cuilan · Apr 14, 2010, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

I said their business plan wasn't sustainable.

Because the only time companies try to make more money is when they're not making enough. Right...

agrios · Apr 15, 2010, 12:12 AM // 00:12

I paid for the wintersday costumes, but I dont feel like doing that again.

They want my money? Its cool because this is what bizz is all about. Just bring me something Id pay for.

As said before, extra hero slots would be awesome. Maybe another Bonus Mission Pack for more lore goodness.

*Darcy* · Apr 15, 2010, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Hero slots are not likely to happen. This would give you an advantage over the player who didn't purchase one. ArenaNet never adds anything to the game that does that.

Anything sold in the store will always be a vanity item or a shortcut item (skill packs).

Shemsu Anpw · Apr 15, 2010, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Even if the money only goes to help pay for the Live Team, it's enough.

jazilla · Apr 15, 2010, 05:03 AM // 05:03

For the life of me, I can not understand why a character slot costs the same as a storage pane. You get more storage from a character slot, and it can be played on! Even if you use it as a PvP mule, you can play with the storage full and not have an issue! This needs to change. We need to see $5 storage panes.

Riot Narita · Apr 15, 2010, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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Originally Posted by jazilla

For the life of me, I can not understand why a character slot costs the same as a storage pane. You get more storage from a character slot, and it can be played on! Even if you use it as a PvP mule, you can play with the storage full and not have an issue! This needs to change. We need to see $5 storage panes.

Why does it need to change? If you think character slots are better, then buy character slots.

I suspect the reason you are complaining, is because you DO understand why storage panes cost what they do. Panes are about convenience, not raw storage space. You want that convenience, but you don't want to pay for it.

R_Frost · Apr 15, 2010, 06:53 AM // 06:53

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Originally Posted by Darcy

Hero slots are not likely to happen. This would give you an advantage over the player who didn't purchase one. ArenaNet never adds anything to the game that does that.

Anything sold in the store will always be a vanity item or a shortcut item (skill packs).

first your probably right, no matter how much people have ask or wanted a full party of heros, i too would be surprised if it happened even though im on the side that wants them

second, what or how do you consider it an advantage? other then making the game possibly easier or being able to do the elite areas alone with a full hero party. your still at a disadvantage compared to a human party because you cant abuse the PvE skills with a full hero party like you could with a human party and unlike the enemy AI, the hero/hench AI dont scatter when taking AoE damage.

third your wrong. not everyone has a full set of weapons you get using the /bonus command in game. you either had to have a pre-order key and/or a certain version of prophicies to get some or all of them. so with your theory of advantage, wouldnt that be an advantage to someone? so your statement of, ArenaNet never adds anything to the game that does that, would be wrong.

Gun Pierson · Apr 15, 2010, 09:59 AM // 09:59

I don't spend money on GW anymore since the storage upgrades. With the 10 bucks Anet asks for 2 costumes, I bought a mini expansion for Borderlands, The Secret Armory of General Knoxx.

Just look at the difference of content offered for the same price:
http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Th..._General_Knoxx

My money goes to creative softwarehouses that offer both quality and quantity. Anet is no longer on that list for the time being.

There was a time I would have bought 4 extra hero slots instantly, but now I wonder why, to play the same content over again once more.

Riot Narita · Apr 15, 2010, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by R_Frost

third your wrong. not everyone has a full set of weapons you get using the /bonus command in game. you either had to have a pre-order key and/or a certain version of prophicies to get some or all of them. so with your theory of advantage, wouldnt that be an advantage to someone? so your statement of, ArenaNet never adds anything to the game that does that, would be wrong.

I don't think he's wrong...

If you have a full team of heroes, you have an in-game advantage over people who only have 3 heroes + 4 henchmen. Because Heroes > Henchmen. If A-Net charged for extra heroes in your party, the only way to get that advantage would be to pay up.

/bonus items on the other hand, do not offer anything better than what you can get in game from collectors, weaponsmiths or drops. They just have different skins. Paying real money for them grants no in-game advantage.

Ravious · Apr 15, 2010, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

I don't spend money on GW anymore since the storage upgrades. With the 10 bucks Anet asks for 2 costumes, I bought a mini expansion for Borderlands, The Secret Armory of General Knoxx.

Just look at the difference of content offered for the same price:
http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Th..._General_Knoxx

My money goes to creative softwarehouses that offer both quality and quantity. Anet is no longer on that list for the time being.

So you like crap like Securom on your computer?

Gun Pierson · Apr 15, 2010, 12:12 PM // 12:12

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Originally Posted by Ravious

So you like crap like Securom on your computer?

That's the price we pay for piracy. I bought it online through steam and everything works tip top.

Point still stands, their 10 bucks' content makes Anet look like uncreative moneybags.

goodrix · Apr 15, 2010, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Mireles

~~And if they really wanted to rake in the dough(and piss a lot of people off)~~

(Purchasable Mini-pets)= Sell new minis that are customized. If current minis are used... price should be scaled with current rarity and also customized. Or just sell the monument function of these minis to be available in guild wars2 and not the minis themselves. Minis are a very popular fad in the community and i believe that they would sell better than anything currently offered. Plus it will eliminate a large portion of why Chinese hacker steal accounts to dupe these minis.

Yeah. I'd like to see this happen. Even charge more dosh for rare pets like $20 for green and $15 for gold, $10 - purple, etc. The perfect money sink for kids who are so keen on feeding the corporation (erhh... I mean ... help their beloved hardworking poor devs). I wish those useless minis would sell like hot cakes and GW2 would have rivers of cash inflow.
Actually I'd love to see lots of useless crap sell for absurd price tags ("mini"? transactions) because I like to know suckers are paying for their stupidity. Makes me feel better, that's all ...

PS: I am serious. Sarcasm never crossed my mind

R_Frost · Apr 15, 2010, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Riot Narita

I don't think he's wrong...

/bonus items on the other hand, do not offer anything better than what you can get in game from collectors, weaponsmiths or drops. They just have different skins. Paying real money for them grants no in-game advantage.

what about for those people who grind a perma pre character? or starting a new character. u have instant access to max damage weapons for you and your heros compared to a new player who wont have that access and has to grind and save to get max weapons.

then theres also the pvp unlock packs too. someone who has the ability to pay cash to unlock skills would have an slight advantage over someone who has to grind for gold or faction to unlock skills untill that person can unlock the necessary skills to run whatever build is the flavor of the month

Aljasha · Apr 15, 2010, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

My money goes to creative softwarehouses that offer both quality and quantity. Anet is no longer on that list for the time being.

wait, what? you consider borderlands a piece of quality?

Riot Narita · Apr 15, 2010, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by R_Frost

what about for those people who grind a perma pre character? or starting a new character. u have instant access to max damage weapons for you and your heros compared to a new player who wont have that access and has to grind and save to get max weapons.

then theres also the pvp unlock packs too. someone who has the ability to pay cash to unlock skills would have an slight advantage over someone who has to grind for gold or faction to unlock skills untill that person can unlock the necessary skills to run whatever build is the flavor of the month

You are confused about what is "convenience", and what is an "in-game advantage".

All of those things you mentioned are conveniences, not in-game advantages. If you paid real money, you got them quicker, that's all. If you didn't pay, you could still have it all - it just took you longer.

What we're talking about here, is paying for extra hero slots in your parties. Now that WOULD be selling in-game advantages - if there was no way to get them, besides paying real money. And that was Darcy's original point: A-Net sells cosmetics and shortcuts... not in-game advantages. Selling ingame advantage is A Bad Thing, and they are unlikely to start doing it. And I agree.

imnotyourmother · Apr 15, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Yeah KUDO'S to GW!

After all they have done or left undone, what else would we have to rant about?

So My Costume is OFF to GW and its staff. I have played for over 3 years now and my internet connection costs me 80 bucks a month and my game is free to play..as long as I play my 80 bucks for my internet connection..or sit at Dunn Tire store for the hotspot.

Woot its free.

Well I did buy 5 Prophecies Campaigns for Nick so..

Woot its free.

If GW said, they needed money or they would shut the servers off.. I'd Say, here my Fity!!

Ok everyone.. Antee Up!!

Again

KUDO's GW!! Great Game! I am going to buy 10 copies of GW2 just watch me...